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Jack Hartford
Thumbs down this is junk. Japanese history doesn't start with the Portuguese discovering them. I was expecting to see how the country of Japan came to be, not a history starting with other countries making contact with them. Waste of time
Marmocet
To everyone getting triggered over this documentary, its actual title is "Japan: Memoirs of a Secret Empire", and its supporting text explains that it is a history of the isolationist Tokugawa Shogunate that ruled in Japan from the 16th to the 19th century. It does not claim to be a comprehensive history of Japan, and it makes clear that it was a "secret empire" in that it deliberately isolated itself from the west and the rest of the world.
ybor20
why do so many people that make history documentaries think that we do not need any maps? You can't understand anything of history without maps. The Portuguese came...where did they landed? What was in the neighbourhood? The child was brought away from his father...where did the father lived? where was it brought?
Linfamy
Although this is not "ancient" history, I still found it fascinating!
mariko miyamoto
tokugawa history is recent history. japan has at least 2600 years history
Bob Doodle
not history of japan, but that of the foreigners. what i would like is that a japanese guy start the story about themselves, not to the eyes of the foreigners.
darius
Japan is an island by the sea filled with volcanoes and it's BEAUTIFUL
Trap Advisor
3/10. No mention of Tamagotchi or Pokemon. Very uninformative.
IeatyellowSNO
Missionaries are the worst.
Gamina Wulfsdottir
Story starts at 2:30. Why do these documentaries always have to spend so much time up front telling us what they're about to tell us? We don't need to be sold on this; we're already watching it. Just tell the story.
Windows 7 and a half
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keithtko
All those comments about Japanese stealing China and Korean culture is sad. If that is the case it would seem like they should possess unequal superiority but that is not the case. Like everything else Japan takes in whatever is good and seem to make it better. Getting tired of all the butt hurt comments that you see in all videos that has anything to do with Japan. Internet is full of know it all adolescent.
brian turnbull
History of Japan by the Yanks
Jewel Mathews
wtf!? I wanted ancient history, how Japan started, not this middle part
FlorinSutu
Like others that commented before me, I expected for this film to start with the ancient history of Japan. Even more important, this documentary completely ignores an event of great importance for the times described in it. It is about Toyotomi Hideyoshi's ambition to conquer all of Asia that became known through the Portuguese newcomers. He really believed that he can conquer Korea, China and later India. After his first invasion of Korea started in 1592 and ended in defeat, he staged a second invasion in 1596, this time more realistic: focused on and hoping for Korea only. The Koreans defeated the Japanese again, this time with some help from the Chinese of the Ming dynasty. Those 2 wars affected deeply both countries. It was the most devastating event for Korea in the last millennium, worse than what happened in 1950-1953. For Japan it also mattered. Most contingents of Samurai sent to Korea were given by the Daimyo that ruled on the shores facing Korea. Only years later these provinces that got depleted of many soldiers will face Tokugawa Ieyasu at the Battle of Sekigahara. With the additional help of the soldiers previously lost in Korea, the battle may had ended in a different way.
Critic Number 4
This started quite late in the history of Japan. What about the tribes well before the 7th century. They had huts and artwork. They just began when the Euros arrived. Helpful but surely not complete.
Matt
I'm surprised the Japanese hadn't seen guns before the Europeans arrived. Especially since China created gun powder and they're so close to each other. Also, the history of Japan began when the Europeans arrived? I guess nothing happened before that.... Also the Samurai killing people who were rude to them...called Kirisute Gomen.
MrTommy4000
is 500 years really that ancient ?
Robert Armitage
I enjoyed the video, but to use the term ancient, when advertising it, gave a misleading impression of what it was to be about.t Please state what you will be covering, truthfully?
Ricky Spanish Official
'the history of Japan'... --__-- I guess 'history' begins when white people show up right?
Monica Meitin
this isn’t bill wurtz??
Kolton Mitchell
Well since Japanese history doesn't exist apparently before 1443. I will make it up and pretend its the truth. 3ooo years ago a tribe moved to japan from Korea/northern china area after a long migration from north of Tibet. They encountered a neolithic population that had been seperated from other people for hundreds if not thousands of years. due to tribe A's technology they had advantage. Slowly destroying tribe Bs dominance. a thousand years later after generations of interbreeding they become one population that is united by king who becomes emporer. Tribe B still exsist in small pockets but no longer pose a danger to tribe A and are therefore forgotten for the most part.
Michael Wargon
there are a lot of flaws with this documentary. First of all, Japanese at that time were not inclined to adapt new things especially from a foreign country except China. It was Oda Nobunaga that allowed the Portuguese to set up churches. Tokugawa Ieasu did leave his mark by establishing Edo but through Oda Nobunaga revolutionary ideas. Another fault was everyone could have swords including farmers until Toyotomi Hideyoshi declared that only the bushi were allowed to carry swords. By the way, this isn't ancient Japan. There was Soga Umako, Taira Kiyomori , Benke , Minamoto Yoshitsune or Yoritomo (cousins).
Natividad Cruz
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ХОРОШО
It seems like Japan was more secluded and totalitarian state than North Korea.
sumyamchi
This glorification of the violent Samurai ruling class being judge jury and executioner is really disgusting. If the Samurai didn't have the facade of civility, they would be regarded as a criminal gang in the modern world.
Mattrix
This makes me want to watch Inuyasha!!!!
tribequest9
I gave this a thumbs down because it neglects the time before the events discussed.
James Cicero
Funny................the fans were used much like mobile phones of today. Carried with them everywhere and looked at constantly
Thomas Turner
Or u could just watch Bill Wurtz's history of Japan video which explains it in 9 minutes
Hiro Shima
in de rast moment of rife, you must show contror - Nipper 2018
A 2227
Japanese are a beautiful people.
johnson gblood
I LOVE JAPAN BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
Kui Chaichana
Longest thank you:) I have ever seen. Anyway, nice upload.
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Edwina Lee
History like this shows me how treacherous the games nations play. No wonder we are still not living in a world of peace & harmony even though our age has achieved the capability for abundance.
Ryan Leberth
I want to make a sitcom based on this called japan meets the foreigners.
Alulim
20 minutes at the end of just "Thank you :)"
BritishFreedom
The Orientals are the only other civilisation on Earth that have a splendid history that can compare to European civilisation.
abrantino
did the portuguese went everywere?
Bob Risse
The history of Japan is clouded.
Mutilator24
Where is part 2????
MrRaretunes
Samurai= a bunch of useless thieving bastards
DZilian
what about when japan closed all trade with the outside world and america storms an armada into thier port and forces them at cannon point to reopen the trade routes i didnt hear anyhting about that only ending civil wars and feudal lords. American propaganda. might be true but some facts have been scrubbed over or left out entirely.
F. Moussa
Something interesting for Christians. Many Christians were killed in japan in approximately the 17 century. Nagasaki was the place where each year each Japanese hade to trample on a little wood board containing a cross or a picture of Jesus pbuh. Now remember where the atomic bomb landed in japan? In Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Nagasaki was the Christians stronghold, and many died there under extreme torture. And like the Japanese inflicted humiliation on the Christians, God swt humiliated the Nagasaki’s.
Ynse Schaap
From Samurai to building a ladder to heaven........ amazing
Gravity Priest
Great documentary. Let us all be real here though and acknowledge that the Christians were not even CLOSE to the only people persecuted for their beliefs. It could be argued that most of the people subdued by the Shoguns could be said to have been subdued because of their beliefs, religious or otherwise.
MrRaretunes
without foreigners Japan would have zippidy ziltch zero tech that they so covet
Chris Duke
When did Japan get Arabian horses? You showed one, so now I need to know.
GoldenHawk93
What confuses me is, during World War II, the Japanese chose to fight on despite how their army was deteriorating. Their people were starving and they were facing constant bombardment from the air. It took two atomic bombs for them to surrender but they chose to negotiate with Matthew C Perry and open up their country for trade. Why didn't they call for a cease fire and negotiate in 1945?
Gul Majeed
Kamikaze is not suicide
Dfw Fqdefqw
Awful "music."
aregua1
This video is not about "ancient" Japan.
Yvan Vadnais
If honour is not respected, nothing is.
Caliedhe Dosiere
For everyone complaining about the "wrong" title... The title is actually very accurate, because it tells you that is about Japan, and "Japan" concept started with the arrival of foreign, more powerful, peoples like the portuguese who were the top of the world in that time. My explanation should have had been given by the documentary, which is mentioned actually, but for a short moment and most of you won't see it.
Bob Risse
Tokugawa won and we live with this.
David Boson
today some people blame violence and war on lessons learnt playing computer games, or watching war movie. But Japan and everybody else had civil wars of extreme cruelty long long long time before mass media.
Kaleef Dwayne Barksdale
This documentary is from a bais european religious view that does not mention that the first japanese were black or rather dark skin people. The first emperor also was black. But japanese people hide that fact.... The Ainu are the indigenous peoples of Japan and far east Russia. Although the true number of Ainu descendants living in Japan is unknown, it is believed that only 200 pure blood Ainu remain, most of these upon Japan’s northernmost island of Hokkaido. Though the Ainu have their own language, they do not have a written alphabet. The language and the culture of the Ainus is under constant assault from the realities of their present life. Even the spoken language is becoming much rarer. Sooner or later the Ainu way of life may die out and only records of their culture, their wisdom and their stories may lie buried. Genetically they more similar to dark-skinned groups found in Southeast Asia than the Japanese or Koreans. In Japanese history the period between 10,000 and 400 B.C. is known as the Jomon Period. The people of the Jomon culture who lived at this time are regarded as Japan’s first major culture. Many scholars believe that the Jomon people were Ainu or at least that the Ainus are the descendants of the Jomon People. There are similarities between the two early peoples of Japan. The skull and facial structures of the Jomon people and the Ainu are similar to each other. DNA samples taken from ancient burials also indicates that the Jomon people were similar genetically to the Ainu but very different from modern Japanese. Ainus and Jomons differ from the modern Japanese. Sampling analysis shows that modern Japanese are similar genetically to modern Chinese and Koreans. It is not denied that modern Japanese are settlers from the Chinese mainland and Korea. They are linked to Chinese and Korean peoples not Jomon and the Ainus people, the original people of Japan. Archaeologists have found Japanese-style Jomon pottery fragments on Vanuatu (a Pacific island east of Papua New Guinea and 6,000 miles south of Japan) dated to 3000 B.C. This suggests a cultural connection between the two cultures living so far away from each other. The Ainus suffered and still suffer a lot of discrimination. They face discrimination in getting jobs and social benefits. Their children face discrimination and bullying at school. They are called “inus” the Japanese words for dogs. At the start of 20th century, the Ainu language was suppressed by the majority Japanese. Their settlements were uprooted, they were forced to assimilate as lower class Japanese, and they were given land and neighbourhoods rejected by the majority Japanese. One can assess the level of racism against the Ainus when it is realized that the modern Chinese/Korean descended Japanese pretend that they are indigenous, rather than settlers; and they down-play the fact that there were original black muurish Japanese. Perhaps it is because they stole the land from the indigenes. Perhaps they do not want to recall the true owners of the beautiful land which they stole, the land belonging to another Asiatic black people, the Ainus, the last Muurs of Japan.
Chris Fletcher
This seems more about Japanese philosophy than it's histoty
Benjamin Abramowitz
Japan is an island by the sea filled with volcanoes and it’s *BEAUTIFUL.*
JOOPPOOJ K
With new military gun and ship building technologies imported from the Portuguese in the 1543 (also later from the British, Italy & Germany), Japan started to make them self copies soon after their first military industrialization, Japan began to rebel and separate themselves away from their thousand of years relationship with the their most respected mother land - Ming Dynasty (The Imperial Chinese Empire) as a humble Chinese distance sovereignty/tributary state (番屬國 - 倭國). After the years of winning numerical civil wars, Japan became overwhelmingly ambitious, they began to educate their people with the mind of absolute obedience by embracing their patriotic military supremacy, which later became their greed and grave for oversea expansion. During WW2, Japan aligned with Nazi Germany and Italy, started their invasion of Korea, Ryukyu Kingdom (Okinawa), China, Mongolia, Taiwan, Philippine, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and the rest of other neighbouring countries including Russia, Australia and later the remote islands of America.
SomeDude
Made by Jesuits LoL
MrZicmi
i like this :D too bad low res :/
matthew mann
Japan in many ways was highly advanced in Tokyo, Okanowa, And Mount Fuji
Mike Summers-Smith
@2h33m "America looked eastward to Japan"???
Monique Lataire Archey, wife of Lamón Archey
Oh this is nice but I was more interested in the history of China, I have never been interested in Japan and I don't understand the allure of Thailand. But I am sure it's nice.
Michael Wargon
It is true that the emperor had no power but they respected the emperor. Hideyori was Hideyoshi's son but not through his wife Nene.
Zhanon Morales
Its ALWAYS cracaz that steal people land...SMH
Les Booth
Add 15 minutes she compared their training to the Spartans training does that mean they had sex with the children like the Spartans did they were the most gayest army in the world but could they fight Long Live Europa
maldenom
Heian period, anyone? Seriously, there's so much more to Japan than this.
richard wilmot Ph.D
Japan is number one IN BOW JOBS IN THE WORLD Fugu is an aid to giving really good bow jobs: Fugu is the Japanese blow-fish which is a poisonous fish but is served in some of the finest Japanese restaurants at a considerable price. What one is paying for is the removal of the toxin (tetrodotoxin) so the eater won't die... but not all of it. In fact patrons must sign waivers and chefs must be licensed and even then every year people die in Japan from eating Fugu. Why do people assume such risks? Fugu is a drug experience. It leaves the body tingling and slightly numb... just what the Japanese Yakuza or CEO needs for a five hour bow job. Knowing this underside of FUGU eating, tabloid papers are always printing pictures of various celebrities eating FUGU. Some even have contests where only the mouth parts of the guest will be shown and people try to guess the Fugu guest just by the mouth. The interest is that Japanese are always attempting to 'save face' i.e. not be embarrassed and so the point of the contest is to embarrass the guest. The picture of the male Fugu patron is shown as it is no big deal that a male wants a five hour bow job after a Fugu meal. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/12/tokyo-eases-restrictions-blowfish They dismiss as a myth the idea that trace amounts of poison are occasionally left intact to produce a tingling sensation on the diner's lips. Wrong Organ!
زهرة النرجس
When European man put his foot on any piece of land definitely the destruction and devastation will spread out , l'm not talking about the public European but I'm mean the politicians and the leaders or makers of wars.
ANDREW OLIVER SATCHELL
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goognam goognws
samourais were cowards to escape life with suicide, there is no honor in it. They forever died as cowards. If you look at noble animals all will try to live on no matter how badly wounded they may be and will only die when nature allows them to. That is much harder than suicide, humble, strong and praiseworthy. Suicide is for cowards, lost teenagers commit suicide, weak people commit suicide not strong ones. Japanese culture only hides cowardice it can not reverse values. I see samurais as the epitomy of weakness, too weak to face their situation. For strength is not displayed when one wins but when one looses and is capable to live on. A thief or even a murderer is more worthy than someone healthy who commits suicide. There is nothing more dishonorable and weak, even ridiculous than for a healthy person to commit suicide. I would feel shame if someone in my ancestors commited suicide, ancient japanese culture was weak spiritually and morally.
Randall Thompson
what's up with you cry babies doing nothing but complaining about the documentaries you watched if you really hate them that much make them yourself and stop putting all your energy into complaining about everything
keko jones
Why freaking foreigners telling the history of someone else's country? White people wanting to conquer Japan using their christianity stuff but got exposed. Then they want to portray themselves as victims and martyrs when their intentions were to numb Japan, then come in with troops to kill and conquer. Japan did the right thing killing all European foreigners trying to sneak in and closing all relations except for a chosen few Euros......they would've been extinct. Japs are a great people.....Respect!
mark merzweiler
While I was expecting this to go farther in the past...thank you for producing this video.
Unreliable Narrator 66
This is a terribly Western biased and misinformed film. Really nonsense.
MrRaretunes
Japan was just a head cutting off culture before WHITE POWER!!!
Alex Goodrow
...wow...you spent a full hour of this video with a thank you screen...clickbait
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Pamela Myers
Watch the history of Japan, produced in Japan, by Japanese experts. There will be zero Japanese failures in it, and NO record of WW 2. I have had plenty of Japanese students. They told me this is the reason they like Western education. In Japan, students are permitted to ask questions about many "taboo" subjects, including WW 2.
SonofaGlitch
Lol . . . so many comments self-hating white people complaining about how this documentary starts when the Portuguese make contact with the Japanese! That's the uploader's fault folks, not the documentarians. The whole point of the video was to cover the history of Japan during its isolation period, hence the title: Secret Empire. It's when the country was SUPER mysterious to everyone outside of it, not just Europeans but China, and well, everyone. But the uploader is bad at titles I guess. Also seriously, one of the advantages of this period, historically, is that we're getting multile sources on these events which makes it more confirmable: if something happened that the missionaries and the Japanese themselves wrote about you can be better assured it probably actually happened. When you go further back in Japanese history, a LOT more of it gets obfuscated by legends and mythology (or mainland bias when you compare it to Chinese history).
Gerit Flesner
"History of Japan (minus a few thousand years. But we added a half hour of nothing to the end to make up for it!)" Not a bad compilation, but mislabeled, and the last half hour is a thank you screen. Reminds me of Homer finishing his 400 word journalism piece by writing " screw Flanders" to fill out the space.
Dimitris Orestis
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AMaMFox
I'm going to keep this simple as I can by using the names of the people and clans that are used in the documentary and the ones used historically. Tokugawa Ieyasu, as an example of how complicated it gets, as a child was actually not of the Tokugawa clan but Matsudaira, and his personal name was Takechiyo. He had many names before becoming Tokugawa Ieyasu, but I'll simply refer to the clan and people using one consitent name. Okay, so, firstly, I only made it 15 mins in when, among other questionable statements the facts of Ieyasu's early life were blatantly wrong. Maybe they correct all of this later. Seems unlikely. Okay, so some context, that at least in the first 15 minutes isn't given though it must be later. The Tokugawa lands were between the powerful Oda clan and the powerful Imagawa clan. Both clans wanted to capture the shogunate in Kyoto however Imagawa would have to first subdue the Oda to reach Kyoto, and the Oda for whom Kyoto was in the opposite direction of the Imagawa were still hamstrung by the fact that if their army marched towards Kyoto, the Imagawa would immediately sweep in and take their province. Again, the Tokugawa, Ieyasu's clan is stuck in the middle of this. Okay, so firstly, the documentary states the daimyo demanded Ieyasu's father hand over the boy as a hostage. Well, Ieyasu's father WAS the Tokugawa Daimyo, so no, he didn't order himself to give himself his son as a hostage. What did happen was that Ieyasu's father, the Tokugawa Daimyo, was dealing with a civil war, his brother was trying to take control of the clan from him and had defected to the Oda clan. so his father turned to the Oda's enemy, the Imagawa for help and to form an alliance against the Oda. their Daimyo agreed, but as the Doco does get right, backstabbing and betrayals were so common that it was entirely common for the Imagawa Daimyo to request Ieyasu as a hostage to ensure loyalty (this was also common in Europe). The normal hostage situation is even correctly described in the documentary, however what it gets totally wrong is that the Oda Daimyo found out about the alliance and hostage exchange and attacked the convoy taking Ieyasu to the Imagawa. Thus, Ieyasu never became a hostage, he was, at 5 or 6 years old, a prisoner of the Oda. The Oda demanded that Ieyasu's father break his alliance with the Imagawa. However, the Daimyo was clever and refused, saying, if you kill my son it will only prove my loyalty to the Imagawa and they will fully support me. The Oda realized this made sense so they.... did nothing. They didn't kill Ieyasu, they treated him fine but he was most certainly a prisoner. Three years later Ieyasu's father was betrayed by his own men and killed, not long after the Daimyo of the Oda died, leaving a power vacuum that the Imagawa took advantage of pressing their attacks on Oda castles. Eventually the agreed to end a siege in exchange for the Oda releasing Ieyasu and after three years (and now 9 years old) he finally actually was a hostage of the Imagawa, who were aware that he would eventually become the Tokugawa Daimyo and they wanted to fully raise him as Imagawa so when he returned to the Tokugawa it would be as a entirely loyal vassal. This didn't quite work out. But as you can see it was far more complicated than "The daimyo demanded he be a hostage so he was).
Kingpin Ronin
Lol @ early 90s breakbeat-style theme music
NO Expectations
Nothing mentioned about 1590 when Daimyō Toyotomi Hideyoshi brought Japan together after 120 years of feudal and civil war amongst the Daimyō. Needing to award the Daimyō land for their loyalty and to distract them from the war ravaged Japan which had devastated the population.Toyotomi planned to invade Ming China with his own ambitions. When a Korean diplomat arrived in Japan he was asked that Korea allowed Japan a passageway into China the Korean government did not take Toyotomis seriously. In 1592 Toyotomi Hideyoshi launched an invasion against Korea starting the Imjin war. 1592-1598 in which both sides lost nearly 250,000 soldiers but the Korean population suffered over 1,000,000 dead.
CHIGGS 58TH
Gaijin history of Japan.
Edgy Cat
Can they please choose people who can speak properly
Nikolas De Moulin
never have Europeans went "months and months and months" without bathing. maybe Christian missionaries did but in Europe bathing once a week at a minimum was always the standard. Even the "barbarians" and Vikings had a day of the week, Sunday, to not only bathe but to clean their homes, clean all their clothes etc .... Every week they cleaned their entire house, cut their hair etc... This lack of bathing was literally non-existent in Europe and was only found amongst abrahamists. Jews, Muslims, Christians etc.... We have a pagan god of cleanliness for fucks sake. lol.
My Shield Is Disgust
Interesting how the Japanese were one of the few cultures not only to buy European technology, but also to replicate it.
Kerry Berger
I would agree that the History of Japan's unification isn't "ancient" history, but establishes a regime that lasted 250 years until Japan was forced to open up to the West again and the beginning of Japan's Meiji Era and Modern Japanese history begins. Sakoku Isolationism helped to refine Japanese society, establish a complex system of finance, a precursor to the modern stock market at a time when Europe was still economically and politically far less sophisticated than Japanese Society. I tend to agree that while this documentary is well researched, it is rather Eurocentric. I'm interested in finding any Western or Japanese documentary that explains the structure, politics and economics Japanese society during the Nara and Heian, Kamakura and Muromach periods.
Sable Empire
In the time continuum 500 years is not ancient. In Australia we call Dingoes a “recently introduced species”. And they arrived 4,000 years ago. Aboriginal peoples were practicing incredible bush medicine and hunting whales over 40,000 years before these dudes started killing each other. I agree this is not ancient history. And to the one who asked did the Portuguese go everywhere? Not one made it to the Pacific Islands in the Southern Hemisphere. Other white dudes invaded, converted and conquered down under. And no. I am not a First Nation decent. I studied Ancient History which is classified as at least 2,000 years ago.
Traci Whitney
Westerners are known for baths also.love the art work.stories weak.
CockSmasher9000
When the humans of middle earth discovered the island of Elves
Ur mom Gey
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goodluck ogbenna
"My friend, let us not complain, if he was born in the year of the Horse, our load would be much heavier"... Hahahaha
benjamin opoku
Someone did this in nine minutes and one second...
matyourin
Tradesman as the parasites of society... oh such wisdom... :)