Abigail Williams - Smoke and Mirrors


Not on youtube, so uploaded! www.myspace.com/abigailwilliams www.myspace.com/stefanhorror lyrics; In a dark corner of the room she sits in silence behind the mask of beauty lies the truth taken away The land has suffered under your heedless reign there is no end The land has suffered under your heedless reign where is the end? Your love is like a sea without a shore You wear the crown of shadows well my friend but the truth of the matter is, your stranger then a stranger in a strange land Your love is like a sea without a shore your love is like a curse holding me under its terrible spell I should not be there You wear the crown of shadows well my friend but the truth of the matter is, your stranger then a stranger in a strange land I tried to reason I tried to comprehend this is treason



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Abigail williams smoke or mirrors tokio hotel lol



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WakeUpDead777
Brutal stuff!
Järvi
@SOADBFOV yea but that's a bad thing
Järvi
@fpsliams Obviously you have never heard black metal in your life, because this band sure as hell isn't black metal.
Järvi
@ArchNemesis767 Hahaha black metal is not supposed to be technical or polished sounding. I take it that you have never heard any REAL black metal in your life (i.e. Darkthrone, Mayhem, early Gorgoroth). If you don't like any of those you simply are not a black metal fan.
Järvi
@fpsliams If you can't tell that it's not black metal by just listening to it you should jump off a ledge.
Järvi
Lol, blackcore.
SinisterSkip
Indeed, they're not really comparable to Dimmu Borgir. You know why, because Dimmu's albums after Pur Eup Mis were mediocre, and the work of Abigail here is great :)
SinisterSkip
Agree that it's not anything new. Still love the music though. Stylewise there's little difference, quality wise I think this album is ahead of Dimmu's last two albums. I'd give this one an 8.5/10 or so, Dimmu's last two 7.5/10 Very subjective, but Dimmu need to come with more convincing songs, too many so-so these days. But Abigail is just kicking atm!
Filipe Gomes
@xxDarkxAngelxx65 i did some research and i catually found an interview where Demi lovato admitted she likes metal
DJ Goreslam
@Pinchfuzz yeah you said that after the 7th comment. Anyways who ended up looking like a butthurt asshole on the defensive side? Hahaha bro, you mad.
Charlie Chinchilla
I am pretty sure I was under the influence when i wrote that comment meaning I was being a complete ass... So I agree with your disagreeing.
Charlie Chinchilla
@TheScrappehCocoa Being Christain and listening to this would be kind of pointless since the band is named after a girl from the salem witch trials and the lyrics are far from exceptable in the christain community. lol
Hookahgod
oh sorry, dude, I think there was a little translational mistake. I thought "blows" is some kind of synonymous for "is good", but, of course it's not. Anyway, keep in mind: Only death is true \m/
jk47hm4
@xxxskat34lifexxx The core influence is the intro breakdown and the other ones throughout the song, plus the general Suicide Silence vibe that the guitar's tone gives. But yea, these guys arn't black metal anyway. They just don't produce the material that makes a Black Metal song, that being anti-christ/gory/evil lyrics, really fast blast-beating drums throughout the song, and fast tremelo-picked riffs. 4:00 is what I'm talking about. Don't get me wrong though, these guys (and girl) are chill.
jk47hm4
@HeavyMusicGuy16 I agree. They could do more with what they have.. I would suggest more 'regular' riffs and not as much alien static xD Maybe a few clean parts would do some justice too.
jk47hm4
@xxxskat34lifexxx This isn't what I and many other Black Metal fans would consider 'just' Black Metal, at all. Mayhem, Ragnarok, Dark Funeral, Gorgoroth, bands like those are just Black Metal, and they all kick way more ass than these guys!
jk47hm4
@420ibanezz Suicide Silence are eh, but they created a great sound, or what most people call 'vibe'. Listen to a band called 'Rings of Saturn' Their vocals and guitars sound like Suicide Silence, but they are completely different from them!
jk47hm4
Blackened Deathcore?
jk47hm4
@HeavyMusicGuy16 I dig it, but Braindrill is just sloppy. I hate them.
jk47hm4
@xBlackWaterxx I no longer have faith in the next generation's music.
jk47hm4
@BringerOfTruth123 Breakdown or not, this song did a good job convincing me that this band is not black metal.
neil hamilton
Winds of Plague is absolutely feeble garbage compared to this
TorturedShallowGrave
I completely agree with you man... It feels like all genres of Metal are slowly becoming "-core". Of course true Metalheads know what real Metal is, but most of the newbies are oblivious and think they're listening to death, grind, black metal, but in fact they're listening to whanabe-metal played by hardcore / scene kids.
TorturedShallowGrave
I'm guessing your comment was directed at VrrMn88??? I didn't curse in my comment, but you replied to mine...
DarkKrixx
Well said .
Hookahgod
yeah, if you're a retarded emo-kiddie who doesn't have any clue about music, it does
Britton Shrum
the world needs more bands that are THIS bad ass
6FiveNails6
They definitely black metal, Enslaved is considered Norwegian black metal and their music is very melodic compared to most black metal. The Meads of Asphodel are another black metal band that has a lot of influence from other kinds of music, namely English classical music, but they are definitely black metal as well. Black metal is not one thing, but one of the most eclectic incarnations of heavy metal with so much more classical influence on one end and deconstructive primitivism on the other.
6FiveNails6
That vibe you get is a good black metal band.
Doomie Sonofprince
a little metalcorish for my taste
Tobi
hey, man! i like them just as well as abigail williams - is there problem with it?
aDudeNamedIan
smooth jazz at its finest
xBlackWaterxx
@jk47hm4 dude srsly
landofsnowandsorrow
np, we just got different taste. it's more black/ambient but yea. it's kool. i like'em ten times better than abgail williams though.lol.
zarucarsha
@helloasswipes I like you, you're funny. And about the whole "pitch shift" or "pitch harmonic" thing, I'm pretty sure Immortal and other black metal bands have used that technique, so you're wrong to proclaim that it's only used in show-off deathcore.
Carlee Makeup
bahaa, yeaaa. loll, thankss.
Anthony Campbell
@jk47hm4 or just black metal?
ThroneXOfXDecay
@SOADBFOV Dimmu Borgir is a fucking joke of a band..... wearing facepaint.... look like Ronald McDonald.... Dimmu Shall Burn with Elvis
Christian Karides
NO!
stefan de valk
ITS CRABCORE!!1!1!!1! just like attack attack!
fround4
All of our thoughts are conmbined on what gener suits this band. I just don't know what to say.
fround4
Fuck vrrmn88! He doesn't no what he's talking about, and any one who agrees with him are just as guilty as he is.
Diehard Puns
nah ... abigal williams "I" think is just more technical... but both awsome extreme metal bands
csfreak51
butt rock
icedphat
i love how in the tags it says "Tokio Hotel lol" i just fukn cracked up when i read tht =]
Not my fault
@MetalHeadFilipeG96 Yeah she said it in a Rolling Stone interview, maybe she said it somewhere else, I am not sure.
Robert Slavin
Abigail Williams has been defined as black metal singing, melodic metal guitars (thats why theres a keyboards), and death metal drums.
DiezelUser
Yeah another technique called cupping hahaha.
Taylor Hirsch
I disagree. Everyone has, innately, the ability to listen to and deconstruct music. Not agreeing with the band's lyrics or even finding the content insulting should not jeopardize the expressiveness in the music itself. The music is the same music no matter what your political, philosophical, or religious stance is. At most you could call it hypocrisy (since Christians "shouldn't" subject themselves to it) but if you ask me, all religious types are hypocritical anyway lol.
theunansweredone
screamer sounds like mitch from suicide silence
MrSackOmatic
Bask in it
fround4
Fuck all of you!
TonyTheKin
dont be too asertive, they were good on the cleansing, but I will agree that now, they just suck.
Mag 101
@xxDarkxAngelxx65 Stfu-_- Everyone knows you have "special time" with pictures of demi lavato and Selena Gomez-_-
Giulio Riccardi
I'm jizzing off.
Pinchfuzz
@ViolatedPenguin Helloasswipes has some serious amount of sand in his vag It's really making him cranky
Rodney Mears
yee-uhh dude, no doubt dimmu borgir and maybe some cradle of filth
Matt Doyle
@VinceVonVicious Excuse me sir, can you go have down syndrome somewhere else? We're trying to enjoy the music.
Charly Jouglet
Very Dimmu Borgir like ^^
Neil Palmer
I like them. Definitely not Black Metal though, just influenced.
Trey Miller
This whole song is about The Crucible, is it not?
sixx
Hah, most people would label this blackcore
windriderrr
Reminds me of a more melodic Dark Tranquillity. Which is a good thing.
eddiemetal1
my band is going to play with these guys, and if you live in or anywhere near the San Joaquin county in California let me know if you want to buy presale tickets
WickedSteak
@guitar7901 How educational. Thanks.
WickedSteak
Anyone who debates genres is clearly a poser.
jt18023
its funny every song abiagal williams post on youtube theres an arguement about what genra the song is
VHTLtdDimarzio
Lmfao... this shit is classic. The comments that is.
Daniel Segura
@jk47hm4 Yeah their guitarists have plenty of talent that's for sure. They're capable of being an amazing fucking band with the sound they're trying to go for.
Daniel Segura
@jk47hm4 Yeah, Idk rings of saturn could be so much better though.
Daniel Segura
@jk47hm4 Rings of saturn annoy me. They're tech, but so tech to the point where it just sounds retarded, like braindrill.
Romencer17
exactly what I think of this song. god i hope this doesn't become some popular new fad
IZ1R7
This song F'ing rocks !!!!!
cinnawaffls
@Maddlord4 The reason that I have the utmost respect for her.
W Blood
Why the fuck is this trash in a Black Metal playlist. You should have your balls sliced off.
DGS
it seems that people on this side of music are allway's complaining about the other's perception off what kind of metal it is......and which band is bether.......i think it is time to grow up....throw all the 'names' on one big heap....aren't we all metal-lovers? and by the way....indeed it is not generally acknowledged, metal to be "cool".........and i dont care.
luke666808g
yeah, mostly I just ignore the lyrics, i treat it as sound, like an instrument, for all I know he's reading the ingredients off a beer label, when you've been listening to metal long enough you learn to just tune it out.
landofsnowandsorrow
Nah, I didn't like those bands. Not saying they sucked but it's too raw/grim sounding, and maybe people don't feel like listening to bm with shitty ass recording when compared to this band... check out this band though; Sun of the Sleepless - Nebelmond
WeAreIndecentDemise
Abigail Williams is brutal as fuck. And music is music. Lol. If any metal heads wanna check out a Pittsburgh death band, check my band Indecent Demise out. We have some songs/vids on YouTube and Facebook and our EP is free to download. Check us out! We'd love to hear what you have to say.
Carlee Makeup
sweet song, but how in the WORLLLDDDDD, do you freakin' even know what they are saying? lawlszzz, srsly. it's almost impossible, =O!
sgtzero1337
this is one of my new favorite bands, thanks for the upload
BringerOfTruth123
@jk47hm4 That isn't even a "core" breakdown. The chugging intro is similar to many scandinavian bands. Dimmu Borgir had a lot of it on Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia. I highly doubt that Dimmu was influenced by deathcore. Arch Enemy, Kalmah, old Children of Bodom all have moments of open chugging in their songs. That doesn't make them "core" in any way. I own this Abigail album. This song and one other part of the album are the only two remote similarities to having "breakdowns."
Erc Misanthrope
the beginning sounds like he's horking a nicee loogie
areyou kiddingme
this is pretty good
Rambo Moore
not like Dimmu? i beg to differ. at 1:50 - 1:58 it sounds just like the Dimmu song reptile (at 1:40 - 1:50). too close- sort of a ripoff. please compare!!!
Anthony Campbell
@jk47hm4 ok? but just cause these guys dont soudn just like them doesnt make them not black metal. i mean really where is this "core" influence i hear none
Devonpenner
@Romencer17 yeah i agree, they have a good thing here, focusing on american culture in their black metal hahaha but unfortunatley before we know it we'll have emo faggot "Blackcore" bands LMFAO D'=
Robert Davis
one thing about abigail williams is that the guitar work is always FUCKING HEAVY,and even when its melodic it really is FUCKING HEAVY,which is something SOME new metal bands actually lack:P abigail williams are amazing,and rightly so;)
ItsNotaTuhmah
Why not? U must be deaf to not detect the obvious dimmu and Emperor influence - even some rip offs like the intro of 'the departure/ Dimmu's In death embrace - The music is mostly very good, but c'mon, this is nothing new. It's just symphonic extreme metal (some **core in between) like the kind of Dimmu is doing since 15 years or late Emperor (well...Emperor is 1000 times better).
rapmetaldemon09
thanks for telling me about that band, I really enjoy them. and you are right, they do remind me of Abigail Williams. Although I stand by my opinion that AA has deathcore influences to anyone that doesn't agree, the guitar and vocal varieties are a key to my theory
rapmetaldemon09
I think that your the kind of person he's talking about, he is a metal fan, old SS was more core oriented, where their new music has more metal elements, he'd probably appreciate their new stuff better
rapmetaldemon09
true, with a hint of whitechapel, they are like winds of plague, only opposite in a way. cuz winds of plague is the same genre, but are more hardcore than black metal, abigail williams is the opposite way around. both ways come out amazing
rapmetaldemon09
I can appreciate you being true to the black metal universe, but different bands do different things, abigail williams are diverse in their musical tastes, thats why they combine different elements, they don't think they are black metal gods or anything
KxK96
why dont you all shut the fuck up n stop comparing this awesome band with Dimmu Borgir -.- , stop labeling em , its stupid just enoy the music :)
dmh091
Is Trym playing drums in this song?
DJ Goreslam
@Pinchfuzz helloasswipes got you there. What a flammin Faggot.
fround4
There fucking black metal for god sakes and a little Death but mostly black. Get over it and stop getting frustrated! And did Vrr just take Jesuses name invaned? FUCK you vrr88.
JTelli786
its kinda hard to have a black metal band and not sound like Dimmu, hmmm mabe its because they are in the same genre.